Sun / Saturn




These bodies are antithetic in character, and even Harmonious aspects between them are not always in the strict sense beneficent, especially if either body, and in particular Saturn, be in debility by sign or is much afflicted by other planets.   The self-assertive and self-expressive “urge” of the native is forced to conform with circumstance, and though in the case of the good aspects this conformity may not be so painful as with the bad ones, and the native may succeed in partially getting his own way, yet the sense of limitation is not likely to be altogether absent.

The highest significance of the contact is, perhaps, profound and painstaking thought, a moral, well-ordered life and wise, well-considered actions.  There is a strong constructive tendency and a desire to ordinate which may appear in an intellectual form (e.g. a desire to philosophise or ordinate the mental life), or in the desire to govern and shape the destinies of communities, or to build up and control great businesses.

Even the good aspects place heavy responsibilities on the native, which he may not be entirely adequate to support.   What they may bestow is nearly always the result of hard work and patience, and fortune rarely comes by a stroke of luck.

In women’s maps, Sun-Saturn contacts work largely through the fathers and husbands and other male associates; these are often engrossed in business, politics or local government, attaining prominence, but not always proving equally successful in the domestic sphere.

In both sexes a strong good aspect may produce industrious, worthy, and successful sons, but if there is the least concomitant affliction the reverse may happen, and children may be few (especially few boys) or they are of little help to the native.

The good aspects tend to preserve life and health, especially in old age, and they prevent accidents through prudence and circumspection.



This powerful influence may produce well-earned material success and respect, as in the case of the Indian judge, Sir Gooroodar Banerji, described in Notable Nativities as a “self-made man in the truest sense.” In such instances the blending of the two opposite influences is successfully achieved, and the vigour of the Sun is co-ordinated and directed by Saturn.

In other cases the same Conjunction appears to operate to cause seclusion and work done in private.  The father is commonly found to be domineering, cold, without much interest in or affection for the native, and he is frequently unfortunate in his affairs.  It inclines to a worldly upbringing, without much fun or social happiness in youth, and the tenor of life often continues in the same strain.  In other types, when the benefic element is pronounced, the native may be idle and irresponsible, incapable of handling serious matters in the right spirit.   If the Sun is the stronger this type is often found, and duty is neglected; if Saturn is the stronger, then life is all duty and the voice of the heart is stifled.



If the Harmonious aspects sometimes seem to bring painful conditions, it may also be said that neither are the inharmonious aspects entirely evil, although they have a bad name and are sometimes spoken of as if they denied the native almost everything desirable.

The Opposition seems not altogether bad, probably because the two bodies rule opposite signs and therefore there is some kinship between the Opposition aspect and this mutual relation.  It is not incompatible with considerable worldly success, if other aspects favour, though such success will be won only by sheer hard work and may be retained with difficulty.  Often the early life is very hard and the father is of no use to the native; real sympathy between them is rare.   He may be hard or unsuccessful or a reprobate.  A case in point is that of the ex-Kaiser, whose father ruled only for a short time, died of cancer and was never intimate with his son.   I have a case of a man with Sun Square Saturn who as a child was obliged to fetch his father from the public-house regularly – he grew up a person of staunch moral character, worked extremely hard all his life, and, after severe checks, accumulated a moderate fortune.   Here the native’s life was embittered because, though fairly successful, he did not attain his ambitions, which were considerable.  In other cases known to me the Sun-Saturn native has achieved a great deal in terms of social status, but not in actual tangible cash.   Again, the inhibition is sometimes largely physical (cf. the ex-Kaiser’s withered arm).

We may distinguish three types: the ambitious but incompetent man who “fails,” the man who is not ambitious or interested in material affairs, but has to spend his life with them, and the competent and ambitious man who is confronted with obstacles and ill-luck.  Often it seems as if this third class does not suffer much discontent from the fact that he has to work hard for comparatively little emolument; in a word, he accepts the Saturnian destiny philosophically and becomes a willing, if not a cheerful, captive of the planet’s regime, finding a sort of satisfaction in the fact that he earns every penny he gets, and sometimes a good deal more.  But this will depend upon the general tenor of the map, and especially upon the nature of the Ascendant.  In a case of the Sun Squared by Saturn in Aquarius I have found the native very cheerful in poverty, bearing it in an idealistic spirit.

The difficulty is always, at heart, one of self-expression.  Either proper expression is denied or delayed until it is almost too late to serve its purpose, or else the native tries “to force the issue” and blunders disastrously.  Sometimes the issue is shirked and there is shyness or timidity, which may be hidden behind blatant boastfulness.

Children being part of our means of self-expression, this contact is evil for them, especially for the eldest, if a male.  It may deny boys when these are badly wanted or one of them (usually the eldest) may die, be sickly, or suffer in his fortunes.  If there are no boys then it sometimes affects the eldest girl.   In a male natus the Sun was Trine a debilitated Saturn, and the native had four girls, but no boys, and the eldest underwent a long and serious illness.  In a female natus, with a similar Trine, there were four girls and then a boy, who was not strong, although all his sisters were robust.  In the former of these cases it should be mentioned that the wife had Sun Opposite Saturn.

In women’s maps the husband sometimes exemplifies the affliction by being weak and unfortunate, and there is often much difference of age and social status.  In the case just cited the husband was considerably older and (from the wife’s point of view) much immersed in business, while her father had been repeatedly unsuccessful in business.

The Sun afflicted by Saturn is extremely likely, in a female map, to deny offspring altogether and even to indicate a single condition.

With respect to health the afflictions cause debility, catarrhal conditions, colds, tubercular tendencies and maladies of the bones.   In regard to accidents it is well known that Saturn inclines to falls, especially if his action falls near the middle of the Cardinal signs, the central point of this influence being about the 17th degrees.  But by reason of its prudent character the planet is less likely to cause accidents than Mars or Uranus, and as a rule in these cases one or both of the latter intermingle their rays.  Similarly in cases of severe dental trouble.




Immanuel Kant, Mahatma Ghandhi, Bismark, Henry Ford, Coue, W.B. Yeats, P.B. Marston, Swedenborg.


The Conjunction

Don Carlos of Portugal, W.Q. Judge, Franz Hartmann, Franz Joseph of Austria, Crown Prince of Germany.



Charles Dickens, Mrs. Eddy, Nicholas II of Russia, William II of Prussia, Boulanger, Culpepper, Thomas Hardy, Sir J. M. Barrie, Presidents Calvin Coolidge, Woodrow Wilson, Hoover and F.D. Roosevelt.